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Amarpreet
12-06-2004 1:56 am
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I couldn't find any charm in watching this Indian team without Gagan Ajit / Prabhjot and Deepak Thakur / Pillay / Balijt Dhillon like forwards.
These faces are new and good, but they have to learn a lot before filling up the seniors places.
I couldn't remember a match between India and Pakistan where Gagan hadn't scored (Irespecive of the result)
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muhammad zaheer aslam
12-06-2004 6:26 pm
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pakistan have strong team but india pakistan no one knows
definately a edge of sohail but he is all on dependant of forwards if he give me chances rehan has not scored yet he will come as well and score in this match and we will win by two goal
but i love to have a contribution from saqlain
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faheem
12-06-2004 8:23 pm
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pakistan all da way
hard game both India and pakistan have good team. Pakistan dose have an edge India is a very young team but still too close to call.i hope and pray that pak will win. 3-1 for pakistan i think sohail abbas will get the hat thirck
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Zahid Zaidy
12-06-2004 10:33 pm
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Performance
Indian needs a lot of changing in performances,practices,coaching,managements etc.Pakistan hockey is much better than their past performance in olympic hockey.Especially for the Hockey,My prayers Always for Pakistan and India.
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Diganta
12-06-2004 11:28 pm
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Pakistan has edge
There's no doubt that pakistan holds an edge over India, but as the match is a fight among close rivals, no one can predict the scores. Sohail Abbas is the player to watch, if Indians can keep him cool, or if he's in his bad day, Indians can cruise home.
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mohammad nawaz malik - jhelum/kuwait
12-07-2004 1:59 am
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pakistan will win against all
I have no hesitation to say that inshalla pakistan will win this tournament. final will be between spain and pakistan.
m. nawaz Jhelumi
kuwait oil company
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Zahid zaidy
12-07-2004 2:54 am
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Definitely Pakistan will win Insha Allah.
I am sure Pakistan will win but let us pray Pakistan enter into Final by getting good points.INSHA ALLAH.
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Jharkhand
12-07-2004 3:14 am
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Mr.Amarpreet...
Well i cant remember when did Gagan trap the ball properly recently... i cant remember when did Balli run around on the field for 10 full mins without puffing.... i cant remeber when did Prabhjot make a darting good move on the left flank and helped India win or salvage some pride....
Now Mr.Amarpreet seems like you have a soft and i mean REAL SOFT corner for Gagan and grp.I too am big fan of Gagans and his reverse hits and his instinctive hockey.. but for heavens sake and the 1000th and one time... HOCKEY is a team game.. one cannot stand upfront at the other end and wait for the ball to fall at ur feet and knock it IN... no re baba... u hv to run... make tackles win the ball... help others... i mean team mates and PLAY FOR INDIA and not ONESELF!!!!
If your Gagan and grp can understand this then.... yeah good for INDIA... cause v do miss some1 with the talent of GAGAN AJIT SINGH!!!!
Btw.... India Vs Pak will be decided by Adrian or Sohail and no 1 else!!!!
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shakir
12-07-2004 3:31 am
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pakistan must win....
pakistan must win this match to keep the chances of winning the CT alive....
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Zahid zaidy
12-07-2004 3:45 am
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IIndian are doing well with new comers.
I think Indian players are doing well with their new players.Pakistan will win surely but Indian will fight for their fourth position.
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FARHAN
12-07-2004 4:14 am
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CHANGE REQUIRED
Three players needs to be kicked out from pakistan team as soon as possible
(SOHAIL ABBAS) not a player of big matches
(SHABIR) too selfish
(KASHIF JAWAD) don't even know how to play hockey
AND PLEASE KICK OUT THE DUTCH COACH WHO IS HERE TO RUIN OUR HOCKEY TEAM
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Kiran
12-07-2004 5:44 am
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A 2-0 win to India will dramatically change the way league table looks
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Indian Hockey Player (NRI)
12-07-2004 6:06 am
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Please guys do us a favour by whipping us by 7 - 0 and then maybe our sports Ministry will see what is happening in Hockey and get rid of Gill, Jyoti and Rach & Mob.
Good Luck Pakistan.
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Fareed
12-07-2004 7:48 am
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Tough Game
Well after loosing dutch pakistan going into this game with the low moral and a great presure to win the game to stay alive for the finals.Despite have the big loss pakistani team still have better chance on india simply because of sohail abbas and indians have good offense and better defence so every one get ready for the big show
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Zahid Zaidy
12-07-2004 8:36 am
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Two Rivals
Both rivals are facing each other.Pray for your favourite team.I feel both have talent and better techniques then why we depend upon foreign coaching ???
we have our retired hockey experts,why not give them a chance to mould our players according to their experience??
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Zahid Zaidy
12-07-2004 8:41 am
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Changing required by Farhan!!
Changing required on our passions who have no game spirit.Please see the game and admire who plays well whether he is from Spain or he is from Pakistan.Off course !! all have tpo pray for his country player but never shed harsh word on their personalities.
Sahail has proved his performance well and all Hockey players admit it.
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ajit
12-07-2004 9:35 am
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indian fans
dont get carried away germany was fielding a second string team, pak will be a different side. from my point of view this team doesnt have skill to beat top sides in the world, its a junior side that can only match juniors of other contries. indias letting in too many goals thats the problem.
ajit
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NRI
12-07-2004 11:08 am
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Ajit
You are spot on about Indian Hockey, will go and watch Indian Gym this weekend in UK and who could probably beat this so called Indian side and that is National Div 3, we are talking about.
No more wasting time or money watching India play coached by Ruddy gutless German. Hope Pakistanis will give them a real whipping which should rub the smile of the Germans face and so called useless supporters of Indian Hockey.
Good Luck to Pakistan and please whip our boys.
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ajit
12-07-2004 12:42 pm
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coaching
pesonally i feel india doesnt have the players or the skill to play the top sides. this is also true of the seniors who got dumped. a foreign coach can only tell his players to play to a plan, its up to the players to carry it out. right now all ours players are unfit and scared of the gora.. got to have some confidence look at the way gupta was thrown to the ground by the dutchman, he fell like a rag doll. this is the state of our players. ric or rach, neither will make a differerence, indian hockey will remain in the dumps for some time. things need to change in the schools now so that the team in 10 yrs time can be up to the mark. another thing is that all the european players have gone thru uni, ours are poor and from the villages. a uni student will have more drive to win than our boys, they are strong mentally because their minds are trained to be the best, ours come out of the villages and they get overawed by the roads they see in west. this is a major reason for the failure of teams from the subcontinent. being a turbaned sikh, players like ajitpal and surjit exuded confidence and become heros for me and others, look at gagan and jugraj, born in sikh families they dont even look sikh. if they dont even have pride in their background how will they win, and dont tell me harpal is a sikh and hes screwing up, hes still young and will improve will time. cmon u boys of sardars represent ur own in form and with pride, our youngsters need heros not bollywood heros. last i heart sodhi the punjab cricket player has also cut his hair. now thats really distressing.
ajit
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Jaudat
12-07-2004 1:00 pm
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Anybody's Game
Both teams playing in a Asian style, and there Player knows each others. So it's difficult to predict which team can be a winner, although Pakistan has a sightly edge of Sohail Abbas, but still Pakistan not playing the way as he is famous for. Although he won first 2 matches but still not proforming as expected and thats the reason pakistan loss against Holland. Anyhow we will expect Pakistan performing well in upcoming matches.
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adonis_phx
12-07-2004 1:41 pm
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Adrian V/S Sohail
This game will be between Adrian V/S Sohail.
Pak. team has over dependence over Sohail, to convert every Pc they gain, and India will fallback to Adrian to save them, as Indian defenders are known to gift PC's...
Anyway, if adrian can thrawt first 2 Pc's that sohail takes, then we will have a game, else....
But all in all let's hope for a good game.
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Ali Shahid
12-07-2004 2:30 pm
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Pakistan needs to work hard in remaining games
I agree with Zahid Zaidy bhai and other paki bros, that pakistan will win. We need to cut down on the mistakes and make most of the opportunities and intimidate the opponent. Come on we are playing in Lahore take advantage of the noisy and exciting crowd that can scare any Opponent. Welcome to Pakistan. Last but not least Good Luck to PAKISTAN and India For tomorrow Crucial nail biter
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Hockey Lover
12-07-2004 4:12 pm
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Do or Die now
Now We can't afford even a draw .... Pakistan.
With india 3-1 over Germany and spirits high , pakistan have to play well and have to make goals out of their chances.
Against holland, Pakistan played well on field but on scoreboard holland won.
We need in forwarders, players those can make goals out of opportunities but till now they are missing everything.
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Salman Aziz
12-07-2004 4:42 pm
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C'mon Pakistan
Well its gonna be an interesting game for sure. Pakistan should be able to get all the 3 points here, and also hope dutch get 1 over Spain, That will take some pressure of Pakistan and will help them go into the spain game with their chance of reaching the final and venging the defeat to netherlands in the round robin game. C'mon Pakistan, Now Is the Time Men, Charge!!!
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Amarpreet
12-07-2004 7:40 pm
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Axing Forwards
Mr Jharkhand,
The only kill with the India team is the striking in the circle, which only can be done by Gagan like strikers.
BTW, let's wait and watch this team and try to compare with the team which beat Pakistani friends 7-4 last year.
Polishing talent is coach's job. We can't axe talented players only due to their tactics.
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Manbir Grewal
12-07-2004 11:00 pm
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Testing Time
A win will do a great morale boosting effort for the Indians.As far as Rach is concerned if India get a bronze he stays on and so do the players.And forget gagan,prabhjot....when ur not in form ur not in the team its simple..but u do well and come back.Harpal's blunder against the dutch and Xalxo's invisibility the defence is in trouble.Sandeep singh may not be a world class defender but we have no choices.My wishes with team to play sensible and composed hockey against the pakis
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Naqvi
12-08-2004 12:04 am
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Mental Strength
I think we (Pakistan) have got a good team and a good approach, the only thing lacking is the mental strength. In the big matches, they play under lot of pressure and miss very easy chances. That is what happened against Holland. But against India, I hope they wont be under such pressure and will win easily.
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usman
12-08-2004 12:35 am
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who is showing the match
I am in US, does any one know if any indian or pakistani chanel is showing the matches????? or is their a live telecast on the net.
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Diganta
12-08-2004 12:36 am
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Strikers
Strikers need talent and talents are inborn - so there is no meaning of sacking Gagan Ajit after accepting the fact that he has talent. There should be plans where they can be incorporated, may be they can be allowed to play when the match opens up a bit. It's true that Gagan's trapping ability was not at per with International standards in the recent Olympics, still you should remember form is temporary & class is permenent.
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Jatta SIngh
12-08-2004 1:06 am
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INdia RoX
Boleh Sonihal & Chakadey Patte to the Indian team. YOu guys rock.
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Prabhjyot Singh Madan
12-08-2004 1:29 am
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Let's see !!!
There is a sense of desperation to win in the current indian side. The previous forwards did not seem to care....the midfielders are doing all the scoring but if india wins this one then the group pool will be fun one to see. take care people and do not bring god into the game. God belongs to all of us not a particular community for that matter. Discuss hockey here and not religious fervour.
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Aalam
12-08-2004 1:43 am
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Pak got a chance
Hol defeats ESP and now pak got a good chance to get into final and entertain crowed in the biggest hockey stadium wiht capacity of 75,000 which is expected to be filled if pak get into final.
come on guys
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harjeshwar
12-08-2004 1:58 am
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come on ajit ,hair or no hair does,nt make a difference.surjit & ajitpal is a bygone era.as for turbans look at sgpc & the great work they are doing!
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crazy faisal
12-08-2004 2:07 am
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no competition
i think pakistani will easily take indian no problem at all. they must set an eye on spain match which might be critical for pakistan on friday
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Amarpreet
12-08-2004 2:11 am
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And one thing more. Who gove Harpal/Xalco an edge over Kanwalpreet for selection. Kanwalpreet is still young and fit, We can watch the previous recordings and see how he plays against pakistan.
I still believe that game against pakistan is more a mental game. This can only be be played by gutsy players like the above I mentioned , adding to the list is Kanwalpreet and Jugraj (Bad luck he is not fit). We will see the pressure on both the sides and this match is in Pakistan, it will make the difference.
Still I love the players who are courageous and play with the kill. I hate players accepting their defeat very easily and this foreign coach is not a shadow of Rajinder (Who was coach in Junior world cup for India).
What about a match between Ex India players and this Indian team ??????
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Nirvana
12-08-2004 3:08 am
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PAK vs IND
Pakistan are clearly the stronger side, but it will be foolish to rule India out. I predict a 3-1 score (in favor of Pak) as Pakistan tries to fight back into this tournament...
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Tariq Ahmad
12-08-2004 3:50 am
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Clash of the Arch Rivals
It will be a closely fought match but Pakistan has an edge over the Indians.
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imran
12-08-2004 4:20 am
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okay if we kick out the coach and sohail abbas...then do we have a plan as to what to do....or just kick them out and everything will be fine.....india is improving .....pakistan is under pressure after losing..too close to call ....draw might be a possibility
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imran
12-08-2004 4:23 am
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another thing,,,,,what if india wins....would mr. nri and other still think that things need to be changed in the indian hockey setup??
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mubasher from dubai
12-08-2004 4:32 am
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hi
pakistan inshallah is going to beat india but can i know where can we see the commentry of this match and the remaining matches .if so plz tell me
thanks
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Premnath Rao
12-08-2004 4:35 am
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I think India will win 4-2.
Its a do or die situation for India. If India can beat Pakistan and if Pakistan lose to Spain in the last match, India can make it to the finals by defeating Newzealand as they will exactly know the number of goals to be banged in.
Let's hope all this happens.
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bera baba
12-08-2004 4:51 am
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pundek
pakistan 1-O india first half pakistan play very good
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MAQSOOD
12-08-2004 5:11 am
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HOPE PAKISTAN WILL WIN AS PAKISTAN HAS SHOWN TREMENDEOUS PERFOMANCE IN ALL THREE PREVIOUS MATCHES IREESPECTIVE THE RESULT OF LAST MATCH.AND ITS GOING TO BE A REAL THRILLER BETWEEN PAKISTAN AND SPAIN
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annie
12-08-2004 5:51 am
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Pak win 2-1!! Congrats and InshAllah Pak will make it to the finals!!
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zai
12-08-2004 6:01 am
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missing target man (farhan)
i just want to say farhan that do u know how to play hockey?rellyyyy?i didnt see u in any tournament.how could u say that these three jients(suhail,jawwad,shabir) can even b kicked out from the team.any one cant b critisezed who is in the team.they r brillient thats y they r in the team.plz b in your mind and also dont use this language for these brillients.thanks
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mike
12-08-2004 6:22 am
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second string
guess the ihf really likes to kill indian hockey after winning the asian cup in 2003 the team got disbanded since from there on we are loosing and only manage to beat second strung teams.
untill the crop of players like gagan deepak jugraj and bimal lakra are called back and blended with this team thats playing in this CT 2004 then only we can achive some results.
the fowards look too pathetic against a classy team see today against the game v/s pakistan they hardly made any moves
also the bench strength is too poor many of them are just used to warm the benches rather than playing on the field
well if we keep on experimenting then we will get no where
a rolling stone gathers no moss
i hope some one can dig some sense to the ihf
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Zahid Zaidy
12-08-2004 7:19 am
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Pakistan needs Moral Help from you all Asia walo !!
I hope the time is come when the Indian and Pakistani both will pray for Pakistan to snatch the Tropy for asia.Insha Allah we should have to play very cool mindedly with Spanish,otherwise,even a small mistake will change the history of Pakistan or Spain.
WIN WIN PAKISTAN AND DONT LOSE THIS OPPORTUNITY AGAINST SPAIN.THINK SPANISH AS DUTCH RIVAL.
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Yassin Aslam
12-08-2004 8:18 am
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how did Pakistan become so desperate
at least they should have beaten India by a bigger margin, i guess they haven't learnt it since last Olympics... Spain will totally crush them and India and Pak wil be facing eachother again...no it's not a positive thing retard Pakis and Indians who find that kool...
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Cricket/Hockey Lover
12-08-2004 9:49 am
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Congrats Pak wins 2-1...
but Pak could have easily win by a larger margin.......Shabbir missed about 3 or 4 straight chances....Pakistani team played good in the 1st half and Salman Akbar didn't had to do much, but Indians made a come back in the 2nd half and after their penalty corner specialist, Sandeep, I think....scored the goal, the game was looking pretty shaky. Pak achieved about 5 PC, but Sohail failed to convert them....The Indian GK have a nice plan for Sohail....I hope Pak wins, bujt Spain has better chances b/c even if the game is drawn, they will reach the finals....but who knows..:D
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ajit
12-08-2004 10:59 am
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misery
indian hockey is a serious waste of energy, i am switching back to football till the world cup, that gives the ihf 2 yrs to improve the team, hopefully they will surprise me, to all the indian fans dont waste ur energy find something meaningful to follow, its a waste to keep repeating the same things when u know nothing is going to change. who needs indian hockey when they never listen to the largest fan base on the planet, not me. till 2006 c ya.
ajit
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Buckwass Asian Hockey
12-08-2004 12:22 pm
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INDIA (*)
India simply don't know how to keep the ball, or rather don't seem to want to keep it. They don't understand the value of possession. They have a generic strategy -- pass the ball around the defence, lob it up field and hope it goes to an attacker. Zero tactics, 100% impulsive stupidity! 9 times out of 10 the lob is always intercepted by opposing team... the ball practically handed on a plate to the opposition! The strategy is dumb because the Indian players have good intricate stick skills which are never seen because of the stupid long-ball strategy. IT DOESNT WORK.
And another thing: it seems that the Indian defence likes to play ping-pong with eachother during the game! It's as if none of the defenders want the ball!
PAKISTAN (*
Pakistan on the other hand have very good passing and counter-attacking moves. But the finishing in recent games has been pathetic. Believe it or not, this attack is one of the worst in the game... totally lack-lustre. In the last 7/8 games they have played The forwards have missed absolute sitters. And its cost dearly. Barring a miracle, it will be Holland and Spain in the final. And Asian hockey weeps again.
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LAHOREE
12-08-2004 12:24 pm
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We Lahorees would like to give our thanks to the Indian team for showing up to the event in the place of Australia. Our Indian neighbours are always most welcome in Pakistan.
Secondally, it was sad that we won the game in such a controversial manner. I know we badly needed the points but this isn't the way to get them . The young Indian team showed a lot of guts against the rowdy crowd and our much more experienced side. As a die-hard Pakistani Hockey fan, even I have to admit the Indians were a little unlucky and had key decisions go against them. This game will be meaningless if we don't beat spain and win the final. Good luck!
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Punjabi from Canada
12-08-2004 12:54 pm
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India Vs Pakistan
India lost by 2-1. Umpire given PS to Pakistan in last minutes when it was rather difficult for pakistan to score against stubborn indian boys, the umpire helped them.
This normally happen in favour of hosting nations because umpires want their safety after the game. Same thing happened recently in Chandigarh against Spain who was definitely a better side than Indians.
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ASGHAR KHAN
12-08-2004 1:03 pm
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POOR FINISHING !
FOR PAKISTAIN TO WIN THIS CT , THE FORWARDS NEED TO BE ABLE TO PUT THE BALL IN THE NET , ESPECIALLY SABIR AND ABBASSI
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kiran singh
12-08-2004 1:56 pm
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Kick on our asses
we don't deserve any victory!!! kick on our asses as much as you can, i hate indian hockey :'( :'( :'( i spent 6 euros to watch this match live on net, but..... :'( :'(
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Wajid Jawaid
12-08-2004 5:32 pm
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look ahead
The match is over, Pak 2-1 india; that says it all.
Now is the time to look ahead. Pak meets spain next, and that would be a virtual semi-final. Its a must-win situation for pakistan, while spain can do with a draw. May be, this turn out to be a positive thing for pakistan; with pakistan going all out and spanish players having defensive strategy in the back of their minds. Knowing the spanish players though, i can assure that if there would be any defensive strategy, at most it would be in the BACK of their minds, not in front.
And i think that penalty stroke given to pakistan was a fair one, indian players just about appealed against every decision that went against them in this match; so their reaction cant be seen as a proof of that not being a fair penalty corner.... and remember one pakistani goal was disallowed, saying that the ball had risen dangerously,, although no opposition player was standing close.. Hockey, like cricket, is a great leveller..
I wish Pakistan all the best against spain and then , hopefully, in the finals...
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Manbir Grewal
12-09-2004 12:43 am
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Indians were good but not world class
Adrian ,tirkey and Xalxo were good.Sandeep michael, arjun hallapa , are not world class forwards and i hardly can afford to see them play so slow and confused.U cant groom for too long.....U have to be world class the moment u make it to the national team....Deepak Thakur, Gagan and Kanwalpreet deserve a recall on the basis of their current performances....
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desi
12-09-2004 2:01 am
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win
Pakistan won congradulations and still hopes are alive for finals ,so putt all ur efforts and beat spain and qualify for finals!
u can do it guys and it will be a final like Pakistan had in 1994 and won under great shahbaz captaincy and also world cup!
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Desi
12-09-2004 2:04 am
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TO USMAN !!!
fieldhockey.tv showing live video streaming and u have to pay $8 per game and u should have DSL or cable ?
there is also another dutch channel if i can spell rite yearhinimo.com or go in search engine and put live CT on net it will pull some out for u ?
have no idea abt pakistani or indian channel if they are showing last time Z tv showed, if some one knows let us know plz?
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MIKE
12-09-2004 2:08 am
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military regime
well we are the worlds largest democracy but yet it seems that the ihf adopts a military regime changing and chopping players at their own whims and fancies thus destroying indian hockey
i hope the indian govt is taking note of the federations views otherwise hockey will be virtually finished and will soon be a forgotten game
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Wajid Jawaid
12-09-2004 8:22 am
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little correction
"indian players just about appealed against every decision that went against them in this match; so their reaction cant be seen as a proof of that not being a fair penalty corner"
read that as "not being a fair penalty stroke"
thanx
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Ajit Singh
12-09-2004 8:35 am
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Well, when all the decisions go against you of course there are going to be complaints! The worst refereeing I have ever seen in any game of sport. Lahoree is the only Pakistani with the balls to admit it. Thanks Lahoree.
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fan
12-09-2004 3:54 pm
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RE: ajit singh
stop being a cry baby n accept ur defeat. balls? ..u hav no sense dude. We beat u in 10 gamez this yr compared to 2 victories of urz.n 4 consecutive defeats in cricket after tht SINGLE series win of urz at pak land which took 55 yrz. I think its time 4 u to stop crying n accept ur defeat n pray for better performance of ur sportsmen in future !! n plz go check the stats of da Indo-Pak gamez.
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Ajit Singh
12-11-2004 4:36 am
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whats your problem, fan? jeez, a little bit of sportsmanship wouldn't go amiss. Besides, anyone who talks about CR**KET in this place is a loser by default!
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Dave
12-11-2004 4:40 am
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agree with ajit singh
Don't use the dreaded 'C' word here, ever!
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